Ethanol and small refinery waivers came up in the middle of a trade question during the Democratic presidential candidate debate Wednesday on MSNBC.

South Bend, Indiana Mayor Pete Buttigieg was asked whether he would continue the “farm subsidies” that President Trump has authorized to help farmers struggling from the impact of the trade war with China. “We shouldn’t have to pay farmers to take the edge off of a trade war that shouldn’t have been started in the first place,” said Buttigieg.

However, Buttigieg said there are other problems facing farmers. “The worst thing is these so-called small refinery waivers which are killing those who are involved in ethanol,” he said.

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Presidential candidate Mayor Pete Buttigieg - farmers, trade, China, ethanol (1:41)